Goodbye Jol, hello Ramos

Gary Stevens Age : 30 Joined : 24 Jul 2007 Posts : 1798

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/premiership/article2881380.ece

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2152906,00.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=476682&in_page_id=1779&ct=5

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=A1YourView&xml=/sport/2007/08/21/sfntot121.xml

Edgar Davids Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 3552

I have to admit, reading those four articles has convinced me Jol will be gone before end of August.

Gary Stevens Age : 30 Joined : 24 Jul 2007 Posts : 1798

I think he might be gone by Saturday!

If they've taken the decision and they really want Ramos, he'll want to come before the start of the Spanish season on Saturday.

Also, if the board waits and Jol gets 4 points from Utd away and Fulham away, he becomes unsackable (I'd presume) over the international break.

What a f*cking mess.

Founding Father Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 1704

A mess indeed. If Jol goes, no matter who we get, it'll be the usual "transition" season. Forget CL, forget top 6 and forget any chance of winning a cup. Good and bad players will depart, undoubtedly we'll get some great players coming in to "sweeten" things with supporters. But net net, it will be more upheaval, more uncertainty, more instability. Equalling a big fat 10th spot in the league.

Levy and his merry band of half wits will seriously go down in my estimation if BMJ departs. In fact, they have already with the way they are handling this whole thing - through the media.

This whole affair stinks and yet another reason why I hate modern day football.

Gary Stevens Age : 37 Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 1266

Darren Bent says - 'he aint going nowhere'

Does he count as an ITK?

Subject: Re: Goodbye Jol, hello Ramos Tue Aug 21 2007, 13:09

From COYS man ITK:

all i will confirm right now is that ramos is 100% up for the job,he is not on good money at seville plus they are a selling club so he is happy to come,my understanding is ramos can wait a a few weeks to come it does not have to be done before la liga starts but that is not to say that the change may not happen this week cos it might but do not read to much into that as i have not had it confirmed yet (ie that mj is going before man u)

when i can say more about the whole episode i will

one thing i was holding back until after jol went has now been posted next door by ben so im now happy to confirm it that jol did speak to newcastle behind there backs and we found out and were extremely f55ked off with mj this was a year 18 months back during the souness/ roeder regimes at newcastle

i aint taking sides on this but as i said loyalty is a two way street and neither mj or our board are angels so it works both ways

So there you have it, Ramos in charge for the Man U game?

Edgar Davids Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 2576

I fully expect BMJ to be in charge for the ManU game.

Edgar Davids Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 3552

If so, Man Utd will be a crucial test. If the players are behind him they will give him 110% and fight hard to prove a point on his behalf. A win would make the board's argument that he can't do it against the top four look a bit silly.

However, if he can't get something from players commitment, endeavour, himself being tactically astute and with a couple of key Man Utd players out, then it strengthens Levy's argument.

Gary Stevens Age : 30 Joined : 24 Jul 2007 Posts : 1798

Now it is on the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/6954968.stm

Spurs chiefs 'lose faith in Jol'

Spurs boss Jol spent £40m on players during the summer
Tottenham boss Martin Jol's job remains under threat because he has lost the confidence of several top officials at the club, BBC Sport understands.
Sevilla coach Juande Ramos is in line to replace Jol, although the Spaniard's agent has denied links with Spurs.

BBC Radio 5live football correspondent Jonathan Legard says some officials are not sure Jol can deliver regular top-four Premier League finishes.

Spurs lost their first two matches this season but beat Derby 4-0 on Saturday.

On Monday, Ramos' agent Alvaro Torres denied there had been any talks with Tottenham, despite Spanish press reports claiming that the 52-year-old coach met with Spurs officials at the weekend.

Both clubs said Ramos' appearance at a Spanish hotel was a private matter and Torres said the meeting was with a friend and had "nothing to do with football".

Jol came under pressure after the two losses - to Sunderland and Everton - in the first four days of the season following a £40m summer outlay on players.

One bookmaker suspended betting on Jol's departure on Friday but Spurs have insisted they are not negotiating for a new manager.

Some fans also believe it is too soon to make a decision on Jol's future after only three Premier League matches.

Daniel Wynne of the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust confirmed: "It's far too early to see how the season will go.

"Jol has taken us to fifth twice, which is better than any other manager, and has been backed in the summer with his signings."

Ramos has a contract with Sevilla until 2008 and was linked with the vacant post at Manchester City before Sven-Goran Eriksson was appointed at Eastlands.

Founding Father Joined : 05 Jun 2007 Posts : 3522

it's madness. THFC PLC have lost the plot. The beeb is normally shit hot with these stories so it must be true. May be our last game with BMJ on Sunday. Shame it's away as if it was at WHL then I'm sure there would be a MARTIN JOLS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY for 90 minutes.

Same old shite. THFC PLC are morons.

Gary Stevens Age : 37 Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 1266

Yep - all looking a bit depressing now

Gary Stevens Age : 37 Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 1266

Yep - all looking a bit depressing now

Gary Stevens Joined : 07 Jun 2007 Posts : 1015

why don't you say it one more time for good measure twiglet... pale

Founding Father Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 1704

I've just exchanged emails with Jim at Topspurs. His "snout" confirms that Jol will be told to sling his hook as soon as the replacement can be confirmed. No mention who this might be.

All too depressing for words

This season is already doomed to the zhit heap and I suspect the next one too. Sunday at OT will be a nightmare.

FECK IT!!!!

Gary Stevens Age : 37 Joined : 06 Jun 2007 Posts : 1266

Yep -

No I cant do it - Fucking wankers that they are - How on earth can this be happening - in the words of that cockney granny on Catherine Tate - its a fucking liberty